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Rides at the Jeepers! locations

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MrBlueBirdLover6 (talkcontribs)

Hey! I have a question for everyone. Most of us know what Jeepers! is right? We're all one the same webpage? We're all using the same wifi? Okay, in case you don't know what it is, it's a chain of Indoor FEC's. And right now, I'm on a journey to find the rides at all of the locations (mainly the Clinton Township location). I already completed Albany, Southfield, West Nyack, Norridge, Mesa, Greenbelt (I think), and Olathe. Now, the only locations I've been to were in Auburn Hills and Sterling Heights, so I know what rides were/at those locations.

As for the rest, I got a few. I got the swings, spinning cups, kiddie train, and roller coaster for Concord; bumper cars, and roller coaster for Livonia; banana flyers, monkey barrels, and roller coaster for Parkville; bumper cars, and roller coaster for Rockville; and banana flyers, monkey barrels, and roller coaster for Clinton Township.

As for the rest of the locations, I only got the roller coaster. For a long time now, I've been trying to find the rides at the rest of the locations. So, can anyone who's been to the rest of the Jeepers! locations tell me what rides you remember there being? If not, that's okay. All I need is the rides at the Clinton Township location, and we're golden!

Lachlan (talkcontribs)

Hello, we're only a small community here and I don't think any of us have been to a Jeepers park. You may have better luck asking on a theme park forum, but I suspect not many people have visited or if they have, they were children at the time and won't remember anything about it. As for working out the rides, you may be able to find them by looking at the photos on the Roller Coaster DataBase, or searching on Flickr.

MrBlueBirdLover6 (talkcontribs)

I tried looking at photos of the Jeepers! parks on RCDB and Flickr, but they both have no pictures of Jeepers! in Clinton Township. The only photos of Jeepers! in Clinton Township are of Python Pit.

Lachlan (talkcontribs)

It's tricky, I guess taking photos in indoor parks is that bit more awkward, and as most of the rides are very small they wouldn't be of much interest to any adults coming for the coaster credit.

i will likely be inactive for a while

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BlakeBortlesIntercept (talkcontribs)

i found a demo of Roller Coaster Tycoon on archive.org. I AM OBSESSED i bought the game, so it seems that i'll just play and play and play and play and play and play. I'll contribute soon. Possibly

Naming of rides

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Lachlan (talkcontribs)

Okay lets try and clear this up! Let me know your thoughts.

I've created pages for the Madhouse (ride type) and Mystic Swing (powered and unpowered). My personal opinion is that these types are different enough to warrant their own pages, as the Mad House is a clear step up from the Mystic/Haunted swing. However this may change if I find more swing rides that fit inbetween a Mystic Swing and a Madhouse, size wise.

A user has asked what system is used to name rides. There isn't one, as up until recently @Jason foulkes was the only person who edited ride articles. Naturally this means ride naming is skewed towards British names. So I have the following ideas to create a "system" so it is clear to new users how to name things:

  • Keep doing the same and use the British names, and make this the naming policy.
  • Use whichever name is the most appropriate, depending on the ride location, owner, decoration etc. No consistent names.
  • Decide upon the most well known/most used name for each ride type and use that. The policy is that users must refer to ride types according to a list which will be created.

In all three cases, redirects are used to direct users to a single article on each ride type. I still plan to make a page with a list of ride types and what they are called in different locations.

Examples:

  • Cha Cha/Sizzler,
    Scrambler,
    Twist
  • Bumper Cars /
    Dodgems
  • Gallopers /
    Merry-Go-Round
Lachlan (talkcontribs)

Also want to add, I'm still learning about the different ride types myself and couldn't tell you what most of them are. So what I suggest may not be the best idea!

Lachlan

Jason foulkes (talkcontribs)

The lines are often blurred when it comes to categorising rides into 'types' irrelevant of manufacturer, so it's not easy. I do believe a consistent naming system needs to be used though to exploit the site to its full potential.

A good example of where lines are blurred is the Scrambler Twist: Eli Bridge Company invented the ride under the name "Scrambler", which is still widely used in North America. However, Wisdom Industries (also US) invented the "Sizzler" - this name is widely used in the States, however it is also the most common name for a Twist in the UK, as PWS Rides have produced over machines 100 using that name. "Sizzler" is also used in Australia & New Zealand, although Cha-Cha is also used! To confuse matters further the likes of Germany & Netherlands tend to refer to the rides simply as a "Calypso", although they feature a different drive system and gondola types to traditional Calypso rides. In Spain the ride is known as a "Zig Zag" as this is the name Spanish companies A.P.E. and Safeco gave to their versions.

That's just one example!

Jase

Lachlan (talkcontribs)

I can get to grips with the American and British names, but having three or four different names for the same/similar things is going to confuse me. So yeah I'm thinking create a page with a list of ride types and refer readers and editors to that. Unfortunately this probably means having to use American ride names as that's where the majority of viewers come from.

As for what a "type" is, I think of it the same way as the "type" or "category" on roller coaster articles - definitions that group multiple manufacturers' rides together. That's why "Inverted" or "Bobsled" are considered different types of ride but "Euro-Fighter" isn't, for example.

I'm happy to create and maintain a list of rides if you'll check it for me. What we have on the Tilt-A-Wiki main page is a good start.

Antonietta Carruthers (talkcontribs)

hi

Lachlan (talkcontribs)

Hello!

Antonietta Carruthers (talkcontribs)

How are You

Lachlan (talkcontribs)
Antonietta Carruthers (talkcontribs)

Hi

Antonietta Carruthers (talkcontribs)

How are you!

DJW (talkcontribs)

"gallopers" is actually a British term referring to rides with galloping horses most famously built by Savages of kings Lynn

Lachlan (talkcontribs)

Thanks for this I think in the end we decided just to leave things as they are now, even though some rides were inaccurately labelled as "Gallopers" or "Merry-Go-Round". I think the direction of travel (clockwise or anticlockwise) also comes into it? We discussed it more on the Discord channel but didn't come to an agreement!

Antonietta Carruthers (talkcontribs)

Stunt Pilot Opened in May 29 2021

Lachlan (talkcontribs)

Indeed, and we've got a Stunt Pilot article here: Stunt Pilot

what's a service area

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BlakeBortlesIntercept (talkcontribs)

i'm not sure why i don't know it, but at least answer

Lachlan (talkcontribs)

Umm, to me a service area is a resting place seen at the side of motorways, but I presume that isn't what you're referring to? In what context?

BlakeBortlesIntercept (talkcontribs)

the service area where the Fire in the Hole accident happened

Lachlan (talkcontribs)

Ah, I see. The "service area" mentioned is the phrasing from the original newspaper report, I'm guessing that it's referring to a transfer track.

BlakeBortlesIntercept (talkcontribs)

but what's the use? the article, i still don't get the point

Lachlan (talkcontribs)

It'll just be for maintenance of the train, the "service area" will be a workshop where they work on it.

BlakeBortlesIntercept (talkcontribs)

ok. it's unofrtunate some employees couldn't see some people on a coaster

BlakeBortlesIntercept (talkcontribs)

unfortunate

a lot of rides and ride types are pageless

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BlakeBortlesIntercept (talkcontribs)

so i make it my mission of the year to do as many pages as i can.

QDude24 (talkcontribs)

Are you just gonna add basically empty pages or will you actually add substance?

BlakeBortlesIntercept (talkcontribs)

mostly the rides and ride types that do not exist as a page

fastest most exciting ride ever

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Summary by BlakeBortlesIntercept

it was a joke. Lachlan defeated me so i say no more. This is again a joke, take no offense

BlakeBortlesIntercept (talkcontribs)
Lachlan (talkcontribs)
BlakeBortlesIntercept (talkcontribs)

rickrollercoastered

How do i join the discord?

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GabrielTheRollerCoasterPerson1986 (talkcontribs)

I Guess it never works due to the error

QDude24 (talkcontribs)
Lachlan (talkcontribs)

Yes let us know if it's not working, the link here should work too: Coasterpedia:Chat

GabrielTheRollerCoasterPerson1986 (talkcontribs)

I Just got banned for joke edits.

Lachlan (talkcontribs)

What is your account name on Discord?

GabrielTheRollerCoasterPerson1986 (talkcontribs)

Gjpenn Auttp

Lachlan (talkcontribs)

okay, I have unblocked your account but please keep in mind that most of us don't want to fool around. Thanks

GabrielTheRollerCoasterPerson1986 (talkcontribs)

Dear people. i'm sorry for lying to you. i promise i wont lie again. you might unban me when you see this message.

I added a bunch of attractions to the Six Flags Over Georgia page both old and new and many have all disappeared. What the heck? I used to work there I know they are legit attractions

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Thempark78 (talkcontribs)

I added a bunch of attractions to the Six Flags Over Georgia page both old and new and many have all disappeared. What the heck? I used to work there I know they are legit attractions. You can find many of the attractions' info on Six Flags' website as well as wikipedia and other sources. I'm not sure what happened here. I feel as though the hour or two of work I put into editing the page was for nothing. Seriously thinking about deactivating my account if my input isn't wanted here.

Lachlan (talkcontribs)

I've restored the rides now, we can work from there to remove the smallest ones that aren't notable. Pinging Jason foulkes and Loch Ness who also edited this page.

Thempark78 I don't suppose you know more about Arrow Dynamics and Blue Hawk, Ninja at Six Flags St. Louis is said to be an Arrow coaster completed by Vekoma, my understanding with Blue Hawk is that it's a Vekoma project through and through.

Lachlan (talkcontribs)

Hello, sorry about this and thanks for posting here, as I think at least some of the rides should not have been removed Hello, sorry about this and thanks for posting here, as I think at least some of the rides should not have been removed. Hello, sorry about this and thanks for posting here, as I think at least some of the rides should not have been removed!

Certainly the Flying Dutchman, Cable cars, tower, should have been kept. I am currently working on a list of rides, at User:Lachlan/rides, at the bottom there is a list of rides the wiki hasn't been recording. From memory this would include the Frog Hopper, kiddie roundabouts, etc.



I'm writing this on my phone, I'll take a closer look when I'm on my PC.

Best wishes,

Lachlan (talkcontribs)

Ah, should have also mentioned I took out the bit about Ninja becoming Blue Hawk and Wile E Coyote becoming Joker because the data tables document the physical rides, rather than the rethemes - Ninja and Wile E Coyote of course are still operating. But I also forgot to leave an edit summary for that :|

Thempark78 (talkcontribs)

Why would any ride be more notable than another one? One ride may be more notable to one person than another ride to another person. This doesn't make any sense why all the rides can't be named. I mean if this is solely a site about coasters, I can understand, but take out all rides that aren't coasters. Otherwise, it looks like a Wikipedia type page that gives people info about theme parks and withholding rides because of the opinion of the author is only doing a disservice to the reader. I hope that makes sense.

Lachlan (talkcontribs)

I see where you're coming from. This website used to just document roller coasters but since merged with another wiki, dedicated to flat rides, so now it covers both. We started with a very broad scope of every ride. However following some discussions, it was decided to omit the smallest "juvenile" rides due to the very large numbers of them, how similar they look and how often they change hands which all made tracking them very difficult. Bear in mind that this was largely from a British fairs perspective. I started the list User:Lachlan/rides to track these, and also track the names of other rides to try to establish a common naming system but it's still far from complete.

The scope can always change in the future depending on what the community wishes for, but personally I think it would be better to focus on the larger rides first before expanding it further.

Combining roller coaster "model" and ride "product"

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Lachlan (talkcontribs)

To simplify things and allow a single infobox to be used for both ride and coaster models/products I propose listing all "products" together, whether they are for coasters or rides. Of course separation may remain in articles and navboxes, they will just be combined as far as the category system is concerned. Also I think the "product" name sounds better than "model", and it differentiates us from the RCDB, so shall we go with that?

Wilde Hilde is it 4th Dimension?

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Lachlan (talkcontribs)

I'll need some convincing that Wilde Hilde, and the other Roller Ball coasters, are not 4th Dimension coasters. They're essentially half of an Intamin ZacSpin, and the cars make the same movements!