Funnel
Can I suggest that "Half pipe" may be a better category name than Funnel due to there being rides with a similar design to funnel slides (ex Sting Ray (Noah's Ark Water Park) and King Cobra (Aquapolis Athens)) that do not have a funnel-shaped element, but do rock back and forth in the same way.
Right now all the pages I've seen classify these as Wall slides, but the slides that primarily fit into that category only slide over the wall once, whereas funnel and half-pipe slides go over two walls multiple times.
Let me know what you think. CoasterDave (talk) 06:24, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- It’s a difficult one, half pipe is probably more accurate but a funnel is quite an iconic element for many water parks. We could split them but that would result in two categories for what is the same motion. Alex (talk) 22:05, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
U Pipe
@CoasterDave, just saw your edit to change the definition of half pipe from
A U shaped element where the slider rocks back and forth. Unlike a funnel which has a tapered design towards an exit, a half pipe slide ends at the bottom of the half pipe
to
A U-shaped element where the slider rocks back and forth. Similar to a funnel but without a top.
I think the issue with this is it would result in funnel elements where the top has been removed (such as with the TORNADO 60 Vortex!) or water slide elements that would ride identically to a funnel but don't by design have a top (such as Wiegand's Urknall) , which I don't think is accurate.
With the original definition I was trying to be careful to separate out a funnel, which I see more as you're rocking back and forth while moving forwards along the slide, to a half pipe which have a much larger back and forth and generally very little forward movement. Alex (talk) 13:46, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- Well the Manta by WhiteWater West has a tapered design towards an exit, and seeming rides almost identially to most funnel slides, despite not being funnel shaped.
- Along with this, the Abyss, also by WhiteWater West, is funnel shaped, but has the flat walls that allow for larger back and forth motion, despite it being very clearly funnel shaped.
- As I mentioned above, it would not make much sense to call slides such as the Manta "funnel" slides, when they do not have an element resembling a funnel. The half-pipe definition is also too restrictive as there are half-pipe slides that do continue after the element. CoasterDave (talk) 19:22, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- It’s a difficult one and was why I originally didn’t include half pipe. I would say the manta is a half funnel, but I’m not sure whether we should get that granular. The abyss I would definitely put under funnel. I do agree the water fun one should be able to fall under the half pipe. I’ll have a think about the definition, but for now stick it under half pipe. Alex (talk) 20:04, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- I've tweaked the definition, it's not perfect but it will allow half pipes that continue after the element. I'll leave it for now with another product that pushes the definition, it could reasonably be called a half pipe with a top! Alex (talk) 20:36, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- It’s a difficult one and was why I originally didn’t include half pipe. I would say the manta is a half funnel, but I’m not sure whether we should get that granular. The abyss I would definitely put under funnel. I do agree the water fun one should be able to fall under the half pipe. I’ll have a think about the definition, but for now stick it under half pipe. Alex (talk) 20:04, 22 January 2025 (UTC)