User talk:Lachlan
More actions
Please leave a message below - I will reply as soon as possible. I always try to add useful summaries to my edits but if still have questions, leave them here or message me on Discord. Thanks!
Rotating images
Hey Lachlan! How do you rotate any images/files, and what tools do we use? Loch Ness (talk) 21:46, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hello @Loch Ness unfortunately it's rather annoying and I don't know why the images from Flickr are coming out the wrong way up. I fixed it using a program called paint.net but you could use other programs. I downloaded the file, opened it in paint.net, and then saved it again. That seemed to fix the issue. Lachlan (Talk | contribs) 21:59, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hello @Loch Ness just to let you know it can take a while for images to update due to caching, but we have purged the cache so anything you've changed should be visible now. Lachlan (Talk | contribs) 22:21, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
Insiders of the Point articles
Hey Lachlan! Could I find an Insiders of the Point article that has good spelling? Loch Ness (talk) 10:42, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- I don't think we should use it - it seems to have popped up out of nowhere and it isn't clear where they've got all this information from. The trouble is that bad info gets added to Wikipedia (or us!) which is then copied into other websites - and then these websites get used to try and back up the bad info on Wikipedia! It seems at least some of the photos are from Wikipedia and COASTER-net. What article were you looking to use and I'll see if I can find further info on it? Lachlan (Talk | contribs) 20:56, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- I've already got a newspaper link of Millennium Force for you to clip! Loch Ness (talk) 00:54, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
- And I already posted it to the page. Loch Ness (talk) 02:00, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
- I've already got a newspaper link of Millennium Force for you to clip! Loch Ness (talk) 00:54, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
Newspapers
I found a newspaper article that you can use for Millennium Force! Clip it if you want! Here's the link: https://www.newspapers.com/image/989851717/
Loch Ness (talk) 1:47, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hello @Loch Ness thanks for adding the source to the article! Looks good. Lachlan (Talk | contribs) 20:28, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
GateKeeper's Immelmann height
Hey Lachlan! I have a question! Could you start finding an appropriate article that has the information about how tall the Immelmann on GateKeeper at Cedar Point actually is? Loch Ness (talk) 20:26, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hello @Loch Ness have you searched online? You'll be able to access articles more easily than I can as many are blocked due to GDPR. I will have a search on Newspapers.com now. Lachlan (Talk | contribs) 20:30, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
- Just had a search on Newspapers.com for "Gate Keeper" and "immelmann" and "immelman" and various articles come up, but none have the height of the element. Lachlan (Talk | contribs) 20:33, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
- Expect for Insiders Of The Point, which has the Immelmann's height of 140 feet. Loch Ness (talk) 20:41, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hmmm - let's just leave it blank for now :) Lachlan (Talk | contribs) 21:24, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
- Until we find a permanent solution. Loch Ness (talk) 21:55, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hmmm - let's just leave it blank for now :) Lachlan (Talk | contribs) 21:24, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
- Expect for Insiders Of The Point, which has the Immelmann's height of 140 feet. Loch Ness (talk) 20:41, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
Do you count this as a ride?
I was sorting out the Cartoon Network World page today and I was speculating wherever to remove the Bandit Express ride from it... It's an arcade prize redemption tracked ride that is operated by an attendee, so it is not coin operated like those quad bikes I asked about a while ago. But in honesty to you, does this count as a ride or not? A link to what it looks like is below.
https://primetimeamusements.com/product/bandit-express/ LTPHarry (talk) 22:05, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- Hello @LTPHarry sorry about the slow reply - I had a look at the link and also asked others on the Discord server. In summary while you certainly could argue that it should count as a ride, it personally doesn't feel like something we should cover due to its size and arcade-game nature. With so many rides, slides, and coasters still to be added I think our time is better spent elsewhere. Lachlan (Talk | contribs) 15:42, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- I figured that would be the case because it would be a lot harder to find places that do have it, which itself would just be arcades/game centers anyway. LTPHarry (talk) 16:04, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- No probs. What sort of things are you working on now? Lachlan (Talk | contribs) 16:05, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- I don't know, really. I might at some point return back to researching more Tokyo Joypolis attractions and the like, and eventually complete the pages for the attractions that are still redlinks. The other thing is to maybe give those pages a bit of a polish-up. LTPHarry (talk) 16:13, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- No probs. What sort of things are you working on now? Lachlan (Talk | contribs) 16:05, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- I figured that would be the case because it would be a lot harder to find places that do have it, which itself would just be arcades/game centers anyway. LTPHarry (talk) 16:04, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
Flying Machine
Hi, Lachlan! I was researching Harry G. Traver and jumped into a rabbit hole... I noticed, looking at Flying Machine rides like Golden Zephyr or Sir Hiram Maxim's Captive Flying Machine, had the ride type link to a Japanese Zamperla ride. Should we redirect that and change the Flying Machine page to a ride type? If so I'll add the Circle Swing under that umbrella. Thanks! 😁 Gtccoasters (talk) 09:03, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- I've moved that Japanese Flying Machine ride to a different title as there were several other rides named "Flying Machine" on the wiki. I think it makes sense to call the ride type Flying Machine as that sounds more distinctive than "Circle Swing". What do you think - how do other people refer to these sorts of rides? Lachlan (Talk | contribs) 11:43, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- I think Flying Machine is the more common term, I'll start working on it! Gtccoasters (talk) 21:32, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- Ok, sounds good 👍 Lachlan (Talk | contribs) 21:49, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- I think Flying Machine is the more common term, I'll start working on it! Gtccoasters (talk) 21:32, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
Sega Super Circuit
I found some video footage of one of Sega's earliest attraction formats - Sega Super Circuit. It's a RC car race where the players control the cars through a cabinet, a bit like a real-life arcade game. I'm not going to be adding it in because it's not an amusement-style ride, but I felt like you'd be interested in seeing it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqexeuTP0K0
So, a quick recap in regards to Sega attractions, so any attraction made by them that is not a walk-through or is based on a traditional theme park ride is not allowed for the wiki (but is fine to briefly mention them in an article); is that right? LTPHarry (talk) 22:20, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Hello, it doesn't have to be a traditional ride as such. We are working to improve the Guide to ride types page which will clarify. Lachlan (Talk | contribs) 23:16, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Alright. By any chance would rear attraction count for this wiki or would you agree with me and say that it isn’t? LTPHarry (talk) 23:55, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Sorry what is a rear attraction? Lachlan (Talk | contribs) 11:32, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- It was meant to be “This” but I must have unknowingly typed something else. It was referring to the Sega Super Circuit attraction I’m talking about. LTPHarry (talk) 14:32, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- No this one wouldn't. As people aren't actually riding anything, just controlling something else Lachlan (Talk | contribs) 22:24, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Okay. There was something I was heavily debating and that's the Murder Lodge attractions. Would you classify the variants (The Ring, School Festival of the Dead) to be their own attractions or not? All of them are the same attraction just with different themes. LTPHarry (talk) 23:26, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Normally, a rethemed attraction would not be counted as a new ride if the ride hardware is the same. But as a walk-through attraction by its nature is entirely theme elements and doesn't really have any "ride hardware" as such then I don't think it makes sense to merge these articles. It does make me think more and more that we shouldn't be listing walk-through attractions at all, but that's an argument for another day. Lachlan (Talk | contribs) 09:23, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- Good thinking. I’ll merge them when I can. LTPHarry (talk) 11:23, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- Normally, a rethemed attraction would not be counted as a new ride if the ride hardware is the same. But as a walk-through attraction by its nature is entirely theme elements and doesn't really have any "ride hardware" as such then I don't think it makes sense to merge these articles. It does make me think more and more that we shouldn't be listing walk-through attractions at all, but that's an argument for another day. Lachlan (Talk | contribs) 09:23, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- Okay. There was something I was heavily debating and that's the Murder Lodge attractions. Would you classify the variants (The Ring, School Festival of the Dead) to be their own attractions or not? All of them are the same attraction just with different themes. LTPHarry (talk) 23:26, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- No this one wouldn't. As people aren't actually riding anything, just controlling something else Lachlan (Talk | contribs) 22:24, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- It was meant to be “This” but I must have unknowingly typed something else. It was referring to the Sega Super Circuit attraction I’m talking about. LTPHarry (talk) 14:32, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Sorry what is a rear attraction? Lachlan (Talk | contribs) 11:32, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Alright. By any chance would rear attraction count for this wiki or would you agree with me and say that it isn’t? LTPHarry (talk) 23:55, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
My own photos
Today I uploaded my photos. Why aren't they in the right category? Am80567126 (talk) 19:56, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- Hello @Am80567126 annoyingly there isn't a way at the moment to automatically add them to the category. Let me investigate and see if we can find a way. Lachlan (Talk | contribs) 20:02, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you Am80567126 (talk) 20:49, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- Hello @Am80567126 If you add files with Special:UploadWizard, it will now automatically add them to the "Files by ..." category. One other thing, can you also add in the amusement park category when uploading? Unfortunately I haven't managed to automate that yet. So for example File:5th Element Divo Ostrov 13.jpg would be categorised under Category:Divo Ostrov. Thanks! Lachlan (Talk | contribs) 18:45, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you Am80567126 (talk) 20:49, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
Wikimedia Commons and Wikimapia
I think it should be possible to download from Wikimedia Commons and Wikimapia, as is done with Flickr. There are a lot of license-appropriate and useful photos there. Am80567126 (talk) 16:04, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- Absolutely! Unfortunately MediaWiki doesn’t offer a way to automate it, but you can download the photos from those sources and upload them, ensuring the license matches the original and the source location is linked. Alex (talk) 16:19, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- How did you do the automatic download from Flickr? I do that manually, but it's not always convenient when there are a lot of photos. Am80567126 (talk) 16:28, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- It's built in to the Upload Wizard extension we use Alex (talk) 17:19, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- How did you do the automatic download from Flickr? I do that manually, but it's not always convenient when there are a lot of photos. Am80567126 (talk) 16:28, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
Namco Wonder Eggs
Well, I just happened to make another page on a theme park that was owned and operated by a video game company! And best of all... there's professional video footage of it! I didn't really know that this park existed until about an hour ago when I made the page.
Galaxian³ (the first attraction shown off in this promotional video) looks quite amazing! Although, I deliberately excluded it as it's another arcade game attraction (until Namco made a cabinet version) although it was a commission by Namco for Expo 90. At least there's a few more proper theme park attractions at this park than the Joypolis venues. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5KJeyhyAMw LTPHarry (talk) 18:56, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for sharing - as for the second ride, if it's the first ride in that video that looks like a proper ride to me. It moves up and down as well as tilts and it sits more than one person. I think that would meet our draft description that we were working on. Lachlan (Talk | contribs) 20:00, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- Alright! LTPHarry (talk) 21:41, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
Wikimapia images description
What is the correct way to describe Wikimapia images? Option 1 with the licence description or option 2 without it. Am80567126 (talk) 11:04, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
- Good question - are all the images on Wikimedia under the same Creative Commons license?
- I want to make it as easy as possible while still having accurate license info. Lachlan (Talk | contribs) 11:08, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
- In Wikimapia, the licence of all images is the same.Let's now use only the Wikimapia template in the licensing section. You can modify the Wikimapia template to include the licence.
- See how it's done on Wikimedia Commons. Later I will edit all my uploaded photos to fit this template. Am80567126 (talk) 11:23, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
- Yes that's what I will do. I can automatically remove templates if required so don't worry too much about that. Lachlan (Talk | contribs) 11:55, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
- I'll add the CC license info to the Wikimapia template. Lachlan (Talk | contribs) 11:56, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
Not only onride POV videos
For some rides, there are no photos allowed for use, but there are videos of them on YouTube that are not onride POV. I understand this was originally created more for roller coasters where onride POV is appropriate, but now there are many articles about other rides. For these articles it is possible to sometimes use other videos related to those rides. Unlike many photos, it is possible to embed YouTube videos without violating copyright.
I think it's possible to create a new template for non onride POV videos that would be similar to the existing one, just different in title. Am80567126 (talk) 14:38, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
- Hmmm, apologies for the slow reply. I was thinking about this but I'm not sure what the best way to implement it is. RCDB entries now have a "Videos" section. My initial concern is that implementing something similar (a list of videos) will attract spam. I think perhaps we could implement a standard way to link to one or two videos with off-ride footage. Perhaps an on-ride and an off-ride video link? What do you think? Lachlan (Talk | contribs) 12:33, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- Agreed though you're right that the current system is coaster-orientated (though works well for water rides). For most "flat" rides an off-ride video would be more informative than an on-ride one, I think. Lachlan (Talk | contribs) 12:34, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
Wyandot Lake
I was thinking, should we make a standalone page for Wyandot Lake and then mention about what happened after the property was bought by the adjacent Zoo?
It was a completely separate theme park/water park, and after the sale it's site became the Zoombezi Bay water park while rides that the Zoo kept were merged into their grounds. LTPHarry (talk) 21:05, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
- I'm having a look at it now - I see we have Columbus Zoo and Aquarium and Zoombezi Bay pages. I added a note at Talk:Zoombezi Bay on the ticketing as that one perhaps shouldn't be a seperate page, but let's not merge it just yet. Regarding Wyandot Lake as you say, looking at satellite imagery it seems most of the park was removed to make way for Zoombezi Bay however the Sea Dragon and Dinosaur Island Boat Ride rides have remained in the same place. If we did make a seperate article, those ride articles would show as being "relocated" even though they haven't moved, which would be a bit strange. For that reason I think it may be best that Wyandot Lake is discussed on the Colombus Zoo article. Colombus Zoo took over all of Wyandot Lake so I think it would be appropriate to discuss the history there. The Zoombezi Bay article is a seperate question as to whether that should be standalone or merged. Lachlan (Talk | contribs) 12:53, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- The only other thing is to maybe list the remaining rides the Zoo kept as “Merged into Columbus Zoo and Aquarium” or something along those lines. LTPHarry (talk) 14:03, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- That could work, but the articles for the rides themselves would still look a bit weird. I think perhaps the best place to start is to add info to the Columbus Zoo page and if that starts to get unweildy, we can have the discussion on whether to split it. Lachlan (Talk | contribs) 14:46, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- Now that sounds like an interesting idea for a page within a page. Considering the park was right next to the Zoo, it kinda makes sense. LTPHarry (talk) 14:50, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- I'd probably have a main "History" section and then a subection for Colubmus Zoo and another one for Wyandot Lake. Then a third subsection for the acquisition of Wyandot Lake by the Zoo and everything that came after that. Lachlan (Talk | contribs) 15:04, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- I did take notice of something on Zoombezi Bay's website, while it’s separately paid from the Zoo it does include free entry to the Zoo with a standard day pass; but this appears to exclude the rides unless you pay extra. LTPHarry (talk) 15:24, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- Ah okay - is the ride pass definitely extra? In that case, we should probably keep the seperate page for Zoombezi Bay. Lachlan (Talk | contribs) 15:34, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- Here's the website in case you want have a look yourself.
- https://www.zoombezibay.com/hours-and-rates LTPHarry (talk) 17:45, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- I’ve gotten back into this topic and I’m still thinking on proposing a split from what I’ve looked up online.
- The first thing is that when Wyandot Lake's lease went back to the Zoo, they completely reconstructed the park and a lot of the flat rides for the ride portion were removed entirely and replaced with rides that would be bought by the Zoo, the same with the water slides as most of the slides at Zoombezi Bay were newly-built when it opened under that name. Another thing to note was that if you saw what I wrote down a month ago, Wyandot Lake was mostly a water park with rides from the previous Zoo Park added to mix evens. LTPHarry (talk) 14:14, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
- Hello, I didn't come back last time as wasn't sure what the best way forward was. Your reasoning makes sense. I think for any ride that was retained by Columbus Zoo, just have one location in the infobox and don't include the Wyandot Lake location. This does mean the Wyandot Lake park page won't include some points on the map. If we publish the seperate page for Wyandot Lake, we'll need to assess how the information is interpreted by Cargo (On this day, disambiguations etc) and make sure it all makes sense. Lachlan (Talk | contribs) 11:42, 22 February 2025 (UTC)
- Alright then. I think that will seem to work out fine. I did take some time looking on the park's former website and whatever maps I was able to find on the internet. LTPHarry (talk) 14:17, 22 February 2025 (UTC)
- Hello, I didn't come back last time as wasn't sure what the best way forward was. Your reasoning makes sense. I think for any ride that was retained by Columbus Zoo, just have one location in the infobox and don't include the Wyandot Lake location. This does mean the Wyandot Lake park page won't include some points on the map. If we publish the seperate page for Wyandot Lake, we'll need to assess how the information is interpreted by Cargo (On this day, disambiguations etc) and make sure it all makes sense. Lachlan (Talk | contribs) 11:42, 22 February 2025 (UTC)
- Ah okay - is the ride pass definitely extra? In that case, we should probably keep the seperate page for Zoombezi Bay. Lachlan (Talk | contribs) 15:34, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- I did take notice of something on Zoombezi Bay's website, while it’s separately paid from the Zoo it does include free entry to the Zoo with a standard day pass; but this appears to exclude the rides unless you pay extra. LTPHarry (talk) 15:24, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- I'd probably have a main "History" section and then a subection for Colubmus Zoo and another one for Wyandot Lake. Then a third subsection for the acquisition of Wyandot Lake by the Zoo and everything that came after that. Lachlan (Talk | contribs) 15:04, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- Now that sounds like an interesting idea for a page within a page. Considering the park was right next to the Zoo, it kinda makes sense. LTPHarry (talk) 14:50, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- That could work, but the articles for the rides themselves would still look a bit weird. I think perhaps the best place to start is to add info to the Columbus Zoo page and if that starts to get unweildy, we can have the discussion on whether to split it. Lachlan (Talk | contribs) 14:46, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- The only other thing is to maybe list the remaining rides the Zoo kept as “Merged into Columbus Zoo and Aquarium” or something along those lines. LTPHarry (talk) 14:03, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
Gyro Tower / Observation Tower
Hey! I was looking at some Observation Tower ride pages and frequently see it listed as a ride type. I also found the Gyro Tower page to be a ride type. When you look at the products listed on the page, they're all under the ride type Observation tower. Would it be best to change those to Gyro Tower? Or maybe redirect Gyro Tower to Observation Tower as the more common term? Gtccoasters (talk) 06:47, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- At the moment the Gyro Tower page says A gyro tower is a tower based attraction with a revolving, vertically moving observation platform. The observation deck is typically fully enclosed and air conditioned. whereas Category:Observation Tower includes not only Gyro Tower rides that fit this description but also rides like Eiffel Tower (Kings Island) which clearly don't fit.
- If we change Gyro Tower to Observation Tower we would need to make the description more generic but this would then remove the inconsistency between the ride type article and the wiki category. That seems like a sensible way forward that doesn't add more and more categories.
- There is also the question of whether we should include these sorts of rides in the first place - I started a discussion at Coasterpedia talk:Guide to ride types about creating a description that should eocompass all rides on the wiki. We should work to ensure it includes this sort of ride, if we want to keep them on the wiki. Lachlan (Talk | contribs) 13:03, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
Footage of Shinjuku Joypolis
I found a video of the inside of Shinjuku Joypolis. Most of it is from the game center area, but there is also footage of Sega Rally Special Stage and Power Sled (with their moving car seats), and a first-person view of Ghost Hunters.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RpHVOlTGs4 LTPHarry (talk) 01:43, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for this - I added a link to Ghost Hunters II (Shinjuku Joypolis) Lachlan (Talk | contribs) 17:14, 24 January 2025 (UTC)
Storage Relocations:
Hi @Lachlan. Could we add to infoboxes about relocations of rides to locations where they never operated at? This includes the period where they were stored at before being removed. For example:
La Ronde
The Great Escape & Splashwater Kingdom
Six Flags AstroWorld
MK700 Geek (talk) 14:32, 24 January 2025 (UTC)
- I'm not sure how best to do it - there are various pages where past locations have been added even if the ride didn't operate. @Alex is updating the infobox so perhaps it could be incorporated, but I think it may be best to leave it out and discuss in the article. The past locations/infobox populate various bits such as the new disambiguation pages so we would need to get it right and do it consistently Lachlan (Talk | contribs) 17:29, 24 January 2025 (UTC)
- Hello @MK700 Geek I put some more thought into it and thought about adding a special functionality but I think it's definitely best we leave them out and just discuss in the article rather than add complexity to the infobox. I reckon most people are interested in where a ride actually operated, and they can fill in the blanks if the dates in the infobox aren't continuous. Lachlan (Talk | contribs) 21:18, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
Cinema attractions
So, an extension of what you asked me yesterday; if a 3D Cinema attraction at a park doesn't have complicated (moving seats, rotating boards, etc.) or simulator functionalities then it's not allowed on the wiki, is that right? LTPHarry (talk) 17:13, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
- Yes - I'm not sure about rotating boards- feels like a stretch. Certainly if the seats stay in the same location and just tilt and wobble then that wouldn't count. Lachlan (Talk | contribs) 18:57, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
- I was namely asking because I added Mystic Mansion - Tale of Pandemonium last night, which has a rotating seat format.
- once again, here’s the recent attractions video from Tokyo Joypolis so you can see what the attractions are actually like. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwEhGOZeVfc LTPHarry (talk) 19:21, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
- What time does it start in the video? Thanks Lachlan (Talk | contribs) 21:08, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
- Mystic Mansion appears at the 2:35 mark. LTPHarry (talk) 21:18, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks! Hmmm it does feel like a bit of a stretch to call it a ride, but I think ti just about qualifies as a Motion Simulator type ride. Lachlan (Talk | contribs) 21:20, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
- Joypolis (or well, any theme park ran by a video gamer company) certainly is an interesting chain to look into. Personally, do you see the parks more as large game centers/arcades or just video game/VR-focused amusement parks? LTPHarry (talk) 21:35, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
- I guess they are a hybrid of the two. Either way, they definitely do have rides that we should count here. Lachlan (Talk | contribs) 21:36, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
- What I really need to do in regards to Tokyo Joypolis is document (personally) every attraction that has been at the park and what section they are located in. It feels a lot easier to do Floor 1 and 2! LTPHarry (talk) 21:41, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
- Doesn't Sega Retro have a fairly good list already? That would definitely be a good place to start. Lachlan (Talk | contribs) 22:28, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
- They do, but it’s not entirely complete yet. I had to research most of the defunct attractions they didn’t list down or had a lack of information for myself. LTPHarry (talk) 03:09, 31 January 2025 (UTC)
- Ahh okay - do you know if they are open to new editors? I guess they would record some of the things we don't, like 3D Cinema type attractions. Lachlan (Talk | contribs) 08:09, 31 January 2025 (UTC)
- Of course. I’ve had an account on there for years, and they do document the attractions that Coasterpedia doesn’t, but of course, not all of them. On the good side, I did find a map of Tokyo Joypolis from 2001 on Twitter and Horror Ride is indeed where Wild Wing is today, while the original location of Aquarena on the second floor (before it moved to the first) is where a portion of the Transformers Human Alliance Special cabinets are today. LTPHarry (talk) 14:23, 31 January 2025 (UTC)
- I do actually have major plans to adjust around some of the Sega pages i've added since last year; I've put the Astronomicon pages up for deletion because they feel like small-scale stage shows than actual walk-throughs.
- Another thing I was having a nose at was this roller coaster simulator that some Joypolis parks featured (https://segaretro.org/MaxFlight_VR2002); but I know this is the kind of motion simulator you can find at standard arcades over the years. So, should there be a rule that if a simulator attraction is added, it must be one originally created for amusement parks? LTPHarry (talk) 18:39, 31 January 2025 (UTC)
- Makes sense regarding the Astronomicon pages. As for that simulator you've linked, I think it's pushing it and best we don't list those for now and focus on improving other things. I'm not sure what your last sentence means in practice. Lachlan (Talk | contribs) 19:00, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
- What I meant is that those kind of simulators are those that you can find in arcades and put coins into, and as such aren’t an amusement park style attraction; while Sega's own simulators were made for their ATPs and handled by attendees. LTPHarry (talk) 20:07, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
- This is the sort of thing we should probably discuss at Coasterpedia talk:Guide to ride types - I would start with the most general definition and see where we need to make it more specific/carve out any exceptions. Lachlan (Talk | contribs) 21:28, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
- What I meant is that those kind of simulators are those that you can find in arcades and put coins into, and as such aren’t an amusement park style attraction; while Sega's own simulators were made for their ATPs and handled by attendees. LTPHarry (talk) 20:07, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
- Makes sense regarding the Astronomicon pages. As for that simulator you've linked, I think it's pushing it and best we don't list those for now and focus on improving other things. I'm not sure what your last sentence means in practice. Lachlan (Talk | contribs) 19:00, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
- Ahh okay - do you know if they are open to new editors? I guess they would record some of the things we don't, like 3D Cinema type attractions. Lachlan (Talk | contribs) 08:09, 31 January 2025 (UTC)
- They do, but it’s not entirely complete yet. I had to research most of the defunct attractions they didn’t list down or had a lack of information for myself. LTPHarry (talk) 03:09, 31 January 2025 (UTC)
- Doesn't Sega Retro have a fairly good list already? That would definitely be a good place to start. Lachlan (Talk | contribs) 22:28, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
- What I really need to do in regards to Tokyo Joypolis is document (personally) every attraction that has been at the park and what section they are located in. It feels a lot easier to do Floor 1 and 2! LTPHarry (talk) 21:41, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
- I guess they are a hybrid of the two. Either way, they definitely do have rides that we should count here. Lachlan (Talk | contribs) 21:36, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
- Joypolis (or well, any theme park ran by a video gamer company) certainly is an interesting chain to look into. Personally, do you see the parks more as large game centers/arcades or just video game/VR-focused amusement parks? LTPHarry (talk) 21:35, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks! Hmmm it does feel like a bit of a stretch to call it a ride, but I think ti just about qualifies as a Motion Simulator type ride. Lachlan (Talk | contribs) 21:20, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
- Mystic Mansion appears at the 2:35 mark. LTPHarry (talk) 21:18, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
- What time does it start in the video? Thanks Lachlan (Talk | contribs) 21:08, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
AstroWorld/Wyandot Lake
Hi @Lachlan. Regarding one of your edits, judging by the dates, circumstances and the photo in question. I do believe that parts of AstroWorld's Go-Karts did go to Wyandot Lake as their Sunshine Speedway go-karts opened in 2006, right after AstroWorld closed. Digging though other sources, these were not listed in the auction either. MK700 Geek (talk) 21:37, 22 February 2025 (UTC)
- Hello @MK700 Geek thanks for the inishgt - do you know if there are any photos of the go-karts at AstroWorld? I'm sure someone put together a list of all the rides at AstroWorld and where they went - I think you may have linked to it previously, was that a thing or am I getting muddled up? Lachlan (Talk | contribs) 16:25, 23 February 2025 (UTC)
Water Park Operations
Quick question to ask you regarding this topic. Are water parks that don't have a separate entrance classified as a sub-area of the theme park that it is located in, regardless if it's a paid extra for standard tickets? LTPHarry (talk) 17:21, 23 February 2025 (UTC)
- This is covered on Coasterpedia:Introducing water slides. In the circumstances you describe, the water slides would be listed on the main park page. Lachlan (Talk | contribs) 18:30, 23 February 2025 (UTC)
Templates for Amusement Parks
Hi @Lachlan. I am wondering how to create templates for amusement parks. MK700 Geek (talk) 18:08, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
- Do you mean like Template:Six Flags Magic Mountain? I would suggest creating a new template page and using that one as a guide. You can create a new page just by typing the name into the search bar then clicking "Edit or create page" Lachlan (Talk | contribs) 21:00, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
Arrow names
Hi Lachlan. Regarding the Arrow names, would it be okay if we refer to HUSS-made rides from 1981 to 1984 as Arrow-Huss on the wiki? MK700 Geek (talk) 20:46, 7 March 2025 (UTC)
- Hello @MK700 Geek yes I think that makes sense - my understanding is the it is quite easy to split the products offered by Arrow-Huss into Arrow and Huss and so I would link to HUSS Park Attractions or Arrow Dynamics as appropriate. Lachlan (Talk | contribs) 18:43, 8 March 2025 (UTC)
- Looking at the branding on their brochures it seems they called themselves "ARROW HUSS INC." so I would call the combined company "Arrow HUSS" Lachlan (Talk | contribs) 18:45, 8 March 2025 (UTC)
- Grand, absolutely perfect. MK700 Geek (talk) 22:56, 8 March 2025 (UTC)
- Was the Arrow HUSS company at the time based out of either USA or Germany, or operated out of both countries? MK700 Geek (talk) 23:05, 8 March 2025 (UTC)
- I'm not sure to be honest - they weren't merged for very long Lachlan (Talk | contribs) 23:36, 8 March 2025 (UTC)
- Was the Arrow HUSS company at the time based out of either USA or Germany, or operated out of both countries? MK700 Geek (talk) 23:05, 8 March 2025 (UTC)
- Grand, absolutely perfect. MK700 Geek (talk) 22:56, 8 March 2025 (UTC)
Infoboxes
Hey @Lachlan, it's Harry again. I was wondering if the non-Theme Park attractions (water parks, hotels, tourist attractions, zoos, etc.) should have their own infobox categories, because it doesn't really make sense to list a Hotel as a theme park even if it only has water slides and not flat rides and/or roller coasters. LTPHarry (talk) 19:28, 9 March 2025 (UTC)
- Hello Harry what are you thinking when you say infobox categories - do you mean their own infobox template, or something else?
- We have thought before about how to denote different types of attractions on the country pages (eg United Kingdom) but so far this hasn't come to anything. Lachlan (Talk | contribs) 20:53, 9 March 2025 (UTC)
- Basically, when you go on a page for a place, it will list it as a “theme park in (location)”. The infobox is listed as a “theme park” because there’s no dedicated Infoboxes for other public places. LTPHarry (talk) 21:28, 9 March 2025 (UTC)
- Ah okay makes sense - we will probably add some sort of category system to the existing infobox that will change that. Lachlan (Talk | contribs) 21:29, 9 March 2025 (UTC)
- Basically, when you go on a page for a place, it will list it as a “theme park in (location)”. The infobox is listed as a “theme park” because there’s no dedicated Infoboxes for other public places. LTPHarry (talk) 21:28, 9 March 2025 (UTC)
Water Parks at Hotels
Harry again, got another question to ask you. For aquaparks located within hotel grounds that have proper names, do we use the name of the Aquapark or the Hotel? LTPHarry (talk) 20:33, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- If you need to stay at the hotel to visit, then use the name of the hotel, otherwise if you can purchase tickets separately, then use the name of the park. Alex (talk) 20:40, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- Alright, thanks. LTPHarry (talk) 04:37, 12 April 2025 (UTC)
Hi Lachlan. The new Navplate feature is really useful, as it eliminates the need to manually create template boxes. While script bots were auto programmed to add this to articles, some wiki articles still have not received this by them for some reason. MK700 Geek (talk) 12:18, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
- Hello @MK700 Geek glad you like it, unfortunately there is not an easy way to add them to all remaining pages. Please keep adding them if you're editing a page that doesn't have it already. Thanks Lachlan (Talk | contribs) 13:22, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
- Grand thanks MK700 Geek (talk) 13:42, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
Date format
@Lachlan Hope you are doing well. I noticed a few days ago on the Tsunami/Texas Tornado page that you changed the US dates to keep the article in line. I feel that the US parks should have the US date format, while other parks should have the other one. MK700 Geek (talk) 20:22, 18 April 2025 (UTC)
- Hello @MK700 Geek yes that's right, though it should be a consistent style of dates (and English) throughout the article. Generally the style to use is where the ride last operated. Lachlan (Talk | contribs) 23:01, 18 April 2025 (UTC)
- Ah I understand thanks MK700 Geek (talk) 23:16, 18 April 2025 (UTC)
Username Change
Hello! I’d like to request a username change. Could you please change my current username (GeorgeGaming) to George? If that's unavailable, GeorgeCoasters works too. Thank you! George (talk) 14:15, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- Hello @George, done 👍 Lachlan (Talk | contribs) 14:19, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
Deleting pages
Hello @Lachlan! How do I delete a page? I made a page just called "Pool Slider" for a WhiteWater West product but didn't connect it as a WhiteWater West product. So I started making another page that has the WhiteWater West product subtitle. Is there a way for me to delete the original page? LTcoasters (talk) 18:49, 7 June 2025 (UTC)
- Hello @LTcoasters, you can add the {{delete}} template to the page and someone will come around and remove it, or you can ping me and I can remove it for you. Thanks! Lachlan (Talk | contribs) 19:24, 7 June 2025 (UTC)
Page name
Hello! Is there a way for me to change a page name after creating it? I was making a page for the WhiteWater West Product AquaDrop, but I accidently named it Aquadrop. How do I change the name?
- Hello Lachlan (Talk | contribs) 22:49, 8 June 2025 (UTC)
- Hello @LTcoasters there should be an option in the menu if you click the three dots for moving a page. Lachlan (Talk | contribs) 22:50, 8 June 2025 (UTC)
Would you count this company as a manufacturer?
Hey @Lachlan, it's Harry again. I've gone back to doing edits on the attractions I specialise in researching and I found a company that appears to be behind most of Joypolis' Walk-Through attractions.[1]
This website [2] says that the walk-through attractions that this company is behind function like "tenants" and that the staff might not be affiliated with Joypolis' operations or anything to do with the CA Sega Joypolis company itself.
Would you count this company, from how they describe themselves, as a manufacturer or designer? LTPHarry (talk) 02:50, 12 June 2025 (UTC)
- Hello, from looking at their website it doesn't sound like they are involved in the manufacture. You could potentially say they are a designer Lachlan (Talk | contribs) 10:18, 14 June 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks, I’ll edit them into the pages when I can. LTPHarry (talk) 13:29, 14 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Lachlan, I found this attraction (https://www.subaruland.jp/torokkoide/) on that company's website. It's a tracked ride but it doesn't move on its own, rather the attendees push a leaver to make the car move. Does this ride format count as a proper attraction that the website could list or not? LTPHarry (talk) 00:41, 15 June 2025 (UTC)
- Yes that looks like it should count as a Track Ride. Lachlan (Talk | contribs) 07:11, 16 June 2025 (UTC)
- Alright. LTPHarry (talk) 10:54, 16 June 2025 (UTC)
- Yes that looks like it should count as a Track Ride. Lachlan (Talk | contribs) 07:11, 16 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Lachlan, I found this attraction (https://www.subaruland.jp/torokkoide/) on that company's website. It's a tracked ride but it doesn't move on its own, rather the attendees push a leaver to make the car move. Does this ride format count as a proper attraction that the website could list or not? LTPHarry (talk) 00:41, 15 June 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks, I’ll edit them into the pages when I can. LTPHarry (talk) 13:29, 14 June 2025 (UTC)
No Known Copyright Restrictions For Photos
Hello! I would like to upload this photo from Wikimedia Commons. It's listed as “no known copyright restrictions.” It’s from 1939 and appears to be in the public domain. Is it okay to upload this to Coasterpedia under that status? George (talk) 15:16, 22 June 2025 (UTC)
- Hello - thanks for the message, in this case the Columbus Metropolitan Library say it is in the public domain so it is fine for us to use. Please go ahead and upload it. Thanks Lachlan (Talk | contribs) 16:29, 22 June 2025 (UTC)
- When trying to upload it, Coasterpedia gives me the following error: "The selected date doesn't match the license (I read online somewhere that these are in the public domain in United States)." after I added the creation date (1939). Do I need to put it into another category? George (talk) 15:53, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
- If you try "I read online somewhere that this is in the public domain in United States" and answer the questions does that work for you? Lachlan (Talk | contribs) 16:29, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
- That's what I tried. If I click that, it gives me an error about the date I used on the next page. George (talk) 16:32, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
- Hello - Just add it with Special:Upload instead and I'll fix the formatting once its added. Lachlan (Talk | contribs) 16:45, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
- That's what I tried. If I click that, it gives me an error about the date I used on the next page. George (talk) 16:32, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
- If you try "I read online somewhere that this is in the public domain in United States" and answer the questions does that work for you? Lachlan (Talk | contribs) 16:29, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
- When trying to upload it, Coasterpedia gives me the following error: "The selected date doesn't match the license (I read online somewhere that these are in the public domain in United States)." after I added the creation date (1939). Do I need to put it into another category? George (talk) 15:53, 23 June 2025 (UTC)